Re: Sinhala GNU/Linux

Dear Donald,

For a moment, can you please stop being emotioinal and shall we discuss facts?

You have only reviewed the sinhala allocation table in Unicode. We have gone furthur and implemented it. And we didn't find any problems in producing any Sinhala character.

Please tell me how one can produce the words in the attach image using the 1660 characters (or glyphs) in your proposed "solution"? We have already done it using Unicode. And I know that other implementors (not only SInhala, but other languages in the region) also have not come acoss problems when implementing Unicode.

Requesting to put all the shapes into Unicode is like asking to put all the molecules into the periodic table!

Please let me or Harshula know if you have problems understanding the math of the set theoretic explaiation of Unicode.

Hope you will read this mail with an open mind.

        Anuradha

On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 15:43:37 +0600, Donald Gaminitillake <Donald Gaminitillake> wrote:
> Dear Anurudha , Harshula , Manju and the Professor
>
>
> Simple example is Hydrogen + oxygen gives us water.
>
> We have all these three elements.
>
> Likewise your Sinhala incomplete Unicode + general punctuation = ???
> (Set C and Set D)
>
> where is Set C and Set D ??? Give me in images and locations in unicode
> or in SLS
>
> What are the address of Set C and Set D? what is the first location
> character of set C? where it start and where it ends???
>
> There should be a matrix, chart or an table for Set C and Set D.
>
> The SLS 1134 which is 0d80-0dff = unicode; need to be corrected including
> the your new Set C and Set D.
>
> Unicodes are character allocations tables for most of the languages in this
> world
>
> our Sinhala unicode location: 0d80-0dff is an incomplete set. (see
> http://www.unicode.org/charts)
>
> You got to admit this and we need a correction As soon as possible
>
> I have proved this fact without any reasonable doubt.
>
> Also you avoid answering me about the "union"
> Has this been specified in the SLS 1134 if so where????
>
> SLS 1134 do have only 0d80-0dff (incomplete Sinhala)
>
> unicode general punctuation = 200C-200D
>
> I have sent you both pdf files.
>
> I am from the Printing and Publishing Industry where charaters (letters)
> belongs.
>
> I have not misquoted anything in akuru.org.
> It is the truth without any fear or favour.
>
> I have only given a link to the document and highlighted few lines.
> If you have the courage and a back bone why not translate it correctly and
> publish in Sinhala News Papers and TV and see the public responce!!!
>
> Your group have blocked the local media to distroy Sinhala Language.
>
> Do not distroy my Sinhala!!!!!
>
> For the betterment of Sri Lanka we all got to correct the SLS 1134
> unconditionally and ASAP
>
>
> best
>
> Donald
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> Anuradha Ratnaweera wrote:
>
> On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 01:40:38 +0600, Donald Gaminitillake
> <Donald Gaminitillake> wrote:
> Let me have the Set C and D from unicode. Set C and set D are derivatives
> of set A and set B. Please see the following technical report from Unicode
> consortium about the way they are generated. It talks about unions and
> subsets you wanted a link for.
> http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr17/tr17-5.html I think you are confused
> glyphs, characters and code points. Please read this article if you haven't
> done it already: http://www.unicode.org/standard/where/
> Your Union is not listed. I enclose the pdf files from unicode for your
> perusal. If you look at basic set theory, either a set can be defined by
> listing out all its elements (e.g.: set A and set B above), or by defining
> the way it is generated. The technical report above explains how this
> definition is done, and the paper by Dr Gihan and Aruni - which you have
> kind of miss-quoted on www.akuru.org - defines them for Sinhala
> specifically. Anuradha
> On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 10:52:41 +0600, Anuradha Ratnaweera
>
> <gnu.slash.linux@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> > > I think you are confused glyphs, characters and code points. Please >
> read this article if you haven't done it already: > >
> http://www.unicode.org/standard/where/ Quoting a complete paragraph from the
> above text: "The character you are looking for may be represented as a
> sequence of code points in Unicode. Here are examples of such characters,
> and their representation as a sequence of code points." Anuradha
>
> Dear Harshula SINHALA LETTER AYANNA = 0d85 sinhala letter ka = 0d9a In your
> system with a joiner (in set B) + 0dcf AELA-PILLA and get "KA" "Dumriya"
> train :: with the set a you cannot get DU or RI correctly SLS 1134 does not
> talk of a "UNION" BUT Unicode 0d80-0dff Can you show me a document in SLSI
> where they define SLS1134 as a Union and gives all the locations. (even a
> photo copy of a page would do if you can send as an image) Now show me where
> is set C and D located in the unicode or in SLSI so that I can download as a
> pdf This is where the problem is. All characters need individual locations
> as done in past Mono type etc. (see letter press lead characters) Then you
> can have more Majic in Sri Lankas ICT. Best Donald harshula wrote:
> On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 19:54 +0600, Donald Gaminitillake wrote:
> Dear Harsshula I am Still at the same place: ( as you wrote -- word by
> word) SLS 1134 = Unicode 0d80-0dff locations (this is a the incomplete
> sinhala alphabet) Is this correct? Hi Donald, Absolutely not! SLS 1134 is
> the union of: Set A = Set A1 Union Set A2 Union Set A3 = 0d80-0dff Set B =
> 200C-200D Set C = Cartesian product of A2 and A3 (Set C2 = Union of C and
> A2) Set D = a subset of the Cartesian product of B, A3, A2 and C2
> I find your "set b" contains General Punctuation Range: 2000–206F this
> include No. Set B does not contain general punctuation. As I stated in my
> previous email: "Set B consists of two elements, the magical ZWNJ and ZWJ"
> When I say that Set B consists of two elements, why would list all these
> other unrelated elements. Set B consists of TWO elements, ZWNJ and ZWJ.
> Before we continue any further, please answer these two questions with an
> explanation. 1) Can 0d85 encode a single Sinhala letter? 2) Can 0d9a0dcf
> encode a single Sinhala letter? Regards, Harshula
> Spaces , Dashes,EM SPACE FOUR-PER-EM SPACE DOUBLE VERTICAL LINEs etc , LINE
> SEPARATORs , PER MILLE SIGN etc , DOUBLE DAGGERs etc, QUESTION EXCLAMATION
> MARKs etc, COMMERCIAL MINUS SIGNs etc , REVERSED SEMICOLON etc. QUADRUPLE
> PRIME, Greek enotikon, Urdu paragraph separator .Japanese kome, INVISIBLE
> SEPARATOR etc and Formatting characters 200C ZERO WIDTH NON-JOINER = ZWNJ
> 200D ZERO WIDTH JOINER = ZWJ 200E LEFT-TO-RIGHT MARK = LRM 200F
> RIGHT-TO-LEFT MARK Where are the unicode locations and/or SLSI locations for
> sinhala language byond this? Which you refers as Set C = Cartesian product
> of A2 and A3 & Set D = a subset of the Cartesian product of B, A3, A2 and C2
> Can you give me the similar locations to download from UNICODE. I will be in
> and out of Colombo during the next fewe days and E mails may get delayed
> Best Donald harshula wrote:
> Hi Donald, Set A = Set A1 Union Set A2 Union Set A3 = 0d80-0dff Set B =
> 200C-200D Set C = Cartesian product of A2 and A3 (Set C2 = Union of C and
> A2) Set D = a subset of the Cartesian product of B, A3, A2 and C2 You seem
> to be very interested in Set B, so I assume you already understand and
> acknowledge Set C, as it's derivable from Set A2 and A3. Set B consists of
> two elements, the magical ZWNJ and ZWJ:
> http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U2000.pdf Regards, Harshula